Comments on JLHPBv2: Let me see if I got this right.

Obviously the road-rage example was.. and is... an...

2008-10-29T10:25:00.000Z

Obviously the road-rage example was.. and is... an example. And you're right on the fact that they both were probably being ill mannered butt-muppets and that they did some form or racing. That still doesn't eliminate the fact that only one of them caused the accident.
Naturally this is closer to my heart than if it were two boy-racer Saxos, because one of the parties was on a bike. I don't

dude, your road-rage theory where the bike is tryi...

2008-10-29T09:51:00.000Z

dude, your road-rage theory where the bike is trying to get away from the car doesn't stand up since the bike was *behind* at the time of the crash...and this isn't guantanamo bay. if he admitted racing i think you should consider the possibility that it's because he *was* racing, and didn't have a confession beaten out of him in the cells by those nasty anti-biker police.

personally i

So you're assuming something like the guys meeting...

2008-10-29T09:24:00.000Z

So you're assuming something like the guys meeting up and going "I'll bet ya a £100 that I'll beat you to point B" and the other one replies "Race on, dude!". That's a race.
And for the Sierra driver; if the biker killed zero people and the Sierra driver killed 5 people and injured 2. If the biker got 10 years, reduced to 6 years, then how many years should the Sierra drive have got? I don't

the sierra driver is dead, otherwise i'm pretty su...

2008-10-28T15:15:00.000Z

the sierra driver is dead, otherwise i'm pretty sure they'd be shouting at him too, however the judge is right, it takes 2 to race. the bike could have eased off at any time just as easily as the car and averted the crash by stopping the race.

he's not as responsible as the car but he's gotta take his share of the blame. simple as that tbh.